Smut Alert!

Yes, we're still here.  And Stranger has added another chapter to her M/M fic "Light My Fire"

Monday, February 03, 2003 1:28 PM
wow, is it dead in here or is it me???!!! Wake up everyone! So what's hanging? (pun intended). Hey Erin, great fic girl, hurry up with the next bit please...i need a slash fix like no other...the sooner Mike's really involved, the better!!! Yeah, i know, i havent written anything in ages, but i will, i promise. As soon as i finish work there will be a story winging its way to u...i just have to think of a plot. so everyone ok? healthy? happy? Ok, maybe i know how to start a conversation going...a question...a tough question....>>>>

Who do u think was the best in bed...Mike or Micky?


answers on a postcard please. Now, be honest, i don't care who's ur fave, just tell me truthfully who u think would be the better...although i suppose it depends on what kind of 'activities' u like...whether u want a submissive or someone to dominate u...anyway, personally, i think Micky would be the best...he seems more...flexible (not in the literal sense!!!)

Luv ya shotguns

WTM

xxx

Yeah, it is pretty dead, huh? Sorry, I've been kinda busy lately. BTW, I've been looking forward to that next chapter of No Man's Land. What ever happened to that one? You really left us "hanging". Please do something about that.

As for your question, a nice one to think about, it would depend on my mood at the time. I do believe that Micky would be more...forthcoming, however, we are all aware of Mike's enormous package which is hard competition - no pun intended. I also think Mike wouldn't care as much, so it would be easy to order him to leave after he's finished his business - always something to consider - I'm not the cuddle type. I think Micky would be insulted.
~Donatella

The following is a very interesting little study sent to me by a special friend.  Now we know why the BB became a female hangout from the start.

UCLA STUDY ON FRIENDSHIP AMONG WOMEN
By Gale Berkowitz

A landmark UCLA study suggests friendships between women are special.
They shape who we are and who we are yet to be. They soothe our tumultuous inner
world, fill the emotional gaps in our marriage, and help us remember who we
really are. By the way, they may do even more.

Scientists now suspect that hanging out with our friends can actually
counteract the kind of stomach-quivering stress most of us experience on a
daily basis. A landmark UCLA study suggests that women respond to stress
with a cascade of brain chemicals that cause us to make and maintain
friendships with other women. It's a stunning find that has turned five
decades of stress research---most of it on men---upside down.

"Until this study was published, scientists generally believed that when
people experience stress, they trigger a hormonal cascade that revs the body
to either stand and fight or flee as fast as possible," explains Laura
Cousino Klein, Ph.D., now an Assistant Professor of Biobehavioral Health at
Penn State University and one of the study's authors. "It's an ancient
survival mechanism left over from the time we were chased across the planet
by saber-toothed tigers. Now the researchers suspect that women have a
larger behavioral repertoire than just "fight or flight." In fact," says Dr.
Klein, "it seems that when the hormone oxytocin is released as part of the
stress responses in a woman, it buffers the "fight or flight" response and
encourages her to tend children and gather with other women instead.

When she actually engages in this tending or befriending, studies suggest
that more oxytocin is released, which further counters stress and produces a
calming effect. This calming response does not occur in men," says Dr.
Klein, "because testosterone---which men produce in high levels when they're
under stress---seems to reduce the effects of oxytocin. Estrogen", she adds,
"seems to enhance it."

The discovery that women respond to stress differently than men was made in
a classic "aha!" moment shared by two women scientists who were talking one
day in a lab at UCLA. "There was this joke that when the women who worked in
the lab were stressed, they came in, cleaned the lab, had coffee, and
bonded", says Dr. Klein. "When the men were stressed, they holed up
somewhere on their own. I commented one day to fellow researcher Shelley
Taylor that nearly 90% of the stress research is on males. I showed her the
data from my lab, and the two of us knew instantly that we were onto
something."

The women cleared their schedules and started meeting with one scientist
after another from various research specialties. Very quickly, Drs. Klein
and Taylor discovered that by not including women in stress research,
scientists had made a huge mistake: The fact that women respond to stress
differently than men has significant implications for our health. It may take
some time for new studies to reveal all the ways that oxytocin
encourages us to care for children and hang out with other women, but the
"tend and befriend" notion developed by Drs. Klein and Taylor may explain
why women consistently outlive men. Study after study has found that social
ties reduce our risk of disease by lowering blood pressure, heart rate, and
cholesterol. "There's no doubt," says Dr. Klein, "that friends are helping
us live longer."

In one study, for example, researchers found that people who had no friends
increased their risk of death over a 6-month period. In another study, those
who had the most friends over a 9-year period cut their risk of death by
more than 60%. Friends are also helping us live better.

The famed Nurses' Health Study from Harvard Medical School found that the
more friends women had, the less likely they were to develop physical
impairments as they aged, and the more likely they were to be leading a
joyful life. In fact, the results were so significant, the researchers
concluded, that not having close friends or confidantes was as detrimental
to your health as smoking or carrying extra weight! And that's not all! When
the researchers looked at how well the women functioned after the death of
their spouse, they found that even in the face of this biggest stressor of
all, those women who had a close friend and confidante were more likely to
survive the experience without any new physical impairments or permanent
loss of vitality. Those without friends were not always so fortunate.

Yet if friends counter the stress that seems to swallow up so much of our
life these days, if they keep us healthy and even add years to our life, why
is it so hard to find time to be with them? That's a question that also
troubles researcher Ruthellen Josselson, Ph.D., co-author of Best Friends:
The Pleasures and Perils of Girls' and Women's Friendships (Three Rivers
Press, 1998).

"Every time we get overly busy with work and family, the first thing we do
is let go of friendships with other women," explains Dr. Josselson. "We push
them right to the back burner. That's really a mistake because women are
such a source of strength to each other. We nurture one another. And we need
to have unpressured space in which we can do the special kind of talk that
women do when they're with other women. It's a very healing experience."

Smut Alert!

That's right.  Chapter 4 of Erin's epic "Two's Company, Three's a Nightmare" is now posted for your reading pleasure.   - poor Mick.

Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:37 PM
Okay, I'm hear. I'm the one who has stories to tell about sleeping with Micky Dolenz. Why did you bring me here? Mick's girl

A very warm welcome, Mick's girl. Why did I bring you here? Because we here at Head collect these stories and are always interested in more. In fact, some of us even have our own stories to tell. Think of this place as an arena for Monkee's sexual fact and fiction. It's been a while since we've had a new gal with some personal experience for us to... research. We're not interested in gossip, mind you, we want only the facts as you've observed in your encounter. Details are always appreciated.
~Donatella

Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:00 PM
A quick hello! Just wanted to let you know I'm off to see the Troll tomorrow...assuming he behaves! I'll let you know if there are any good stories to tell!

JG

You're seeing the Troll tomorrow? You poor thing. At least try to get laid this time.
~Donatella

Sunday, February 09, 2003 4:41 PM
I'm back (from Troll Travels)! Got a good look at Davy's girlfriend...my frien says she's not a day over 27...I couldn't decide. So..I'm thinking he got some action...sadly I did not. Oh well. VERY fun time however, extremely small number of people due to the snow piling up outside. Davy mentioned prison and getting it up the butt again...fixated perhaps?

All you Micky fans know that Micky took a part in a play, right? I'm thinking it's going to be on Broadway...or am I dreaming? If that's true, Davy must be jealous! Anyway...I haven't read the new smut yet..so I'd best get on it! (so to speak...)

JG

So, Davy's into prison fucking - coincidence?

Yeah, Mick is apparently in the road tour of "Aida". This is the Elton John/Tim Rice musical that has been on B'way for ages. It came to be when Disney took over Times Square and decided to produce musicals like "The Lion King". Anyway, "Aida" is one of those "tourist" shows and not taken very seriously as a real Broadway production, especially now in it's hundredth incarnation - think of "Cats". From what I've heard, Mick took the part 'cause the producers promised him the part on Broadway after he finishes the tour. I hope for Mick's sake, that the show lasts that long.
~Donatella

Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:58 AM
Hey all

Seems a bit quiet on here at the moment. I thought I would answer WTM's question as I seemed to have overlooked it.

I think Micky and Mike are too different to compare them as the better lover. As Dona said, Mike would probably be more selfish but then i think he would be the more agressive lover, more the rough and tumble lover (mmmm nice!!!) However Micky would be a more caring lover and more of a giver (although I am sure he would love to recieve the attention back too) I know this is all fantasy and our regular experts may disagree but I am thinking of 22yr old Micky and especially the Micky i like to write about.

Glad u r liking the story WTM, I am just putting the finishing touches on the next chapter.

BTW I haven't forgotten the Rocky Horror tape for u, RL has been so hectic lately. I just hope that the RR is still going on, did we ever decide what we were writing about.

Speak to you soon
Keep those dirty minds active LOL
love and hugs
erin
:@)

Oh, the RR is still going on. I'm glad you brought that up. It's just that Leeny's dropped the ball on the second chapter and then I kind of forgot about it. We did decide on one of HMC's chapter's to start off. It was the one that everyone seemed to like - had good Micky/Mike/Davy potential. I'll get a new RR page up this week so everyone get a look at it.
~Donatella

Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:39 AM
Is anybody else getting strange emails from a Kate Thompson with the subject, www.donatellashead.com? I keep getting them and they make no sense.

HMC

Never heard of her. Very strange, indeed. I hope you have a good virus program. What did the emails say?
~Donatella

Don't forget tonight is chat night.
9pm edt

A big hello everyone.  Yes, I'm back with big apologies to all you junkies.  There have been qute a few comments that I haven't had the chance to post.  But have pity on me, I've been awfully sick with some kind flu-like bugger.  Anyway, to make it up to you; I bring you the following:

Smut Alert!

A very special smut alert 'cause it's an LT M/M fic - What more could any of us ask for?  "Nona Take Five"  is now in the BS.

Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:38 PM
Lt.....
To you we bow, in praise and awe.... Excellent story. Then you go and insert just the right amount of smut,lust,and a dash of slash... And as you bring the saga home (Texas) nearing it's finish you throw in a pinch of incest... Something rings true that our Sexy bigger than life Texan would get his cravings satisfied every where and anywhere there was fruit to be had....
Mistress Nez

Well said, Mistress Nez. If only we could all slash like LT. She makes want to retire from smut writing myself. Still, we should all look at her work as divine inspiration from the heavens of slashdom - where else could such talent possibly come from?
~Donatella

Wednesday, February 26, 2003 4:42 PM
Just a quick hi, question, and goodbye: Whatever happened to the Darker side? I last remember Micky and Davy were running from Mike, but that was months ago. I don't like cliffhangers lasting this long! Well I have to go.
Stranger

Oh dear, I am sorry about that. I know it's been forever since the last chapter and I do still intend to finish that project - really. I'm just waiting for the smut muse to hit me in the right spot.
~Donatella

Tuesday, February 25, 2003 2:11 PM
To get some conversation going, I shall now dance nekkid for you all.


::::dancedancedance:::::;

HMC
doin' the nekkid dance

Oh my! That should get everyone talking.
~Donatella

Monday, February 24, 2003 2:17 PM
Has everyone died round here? What's that smell of rotting flesh? I've had flu and recovered since the last time i was here...wow, was that hell! And it was during my holiday!!! GRRRR. So how is everyone? Quiet at least. Somebody say something please, i'm going insane.

Luv ya shotguns

WTM

xxx

Once again, my apologies. It's all my fault for not keeping up with the site while I was sick - at least we had long distance company being sick together. As you can see, I'm working backwards to get all the backed up posts up.
~Donatella

Friday, February 21, 2003 1:55 AM
Only had time for a quick read tonight, so I headed to the Blue Side and read "Oh Margaret." Fantastic!

Head~fan

Wow, this is how far back I have to go to get current.
~Donatella

Friday, February 14, 2003 4:04 PM
I've never heard of her either, I haven't gotten any emails. Yeah, hope you have a good anti-virus! Nothing new going on...just wanted to say "hey" ~mickysgirl~

Hi mg!
~Donatella

Friday, February 14, 2003 6:35 AM
Just to let u know that I am off to my sisters for a few days, I will be back on Wednesday

See you all then
love and hugs
erin
;@)

Oh, I guess you must be back now, what, 2-3 weeks? Hope it was a good one.
~Donatella

Tuesday, February 11, 2003 4:25 PM
Well, i didn't just drop the ball, hubby dropped his job, we have dropped our finances, and the kids have dropped their health. Sorry, been a bit preoccupied.

-leenys

Oh my god! That's horrible. I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope things are looking better for you now. Remember, if you need to vent, I'm always here - we all are.
~Donatella

Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:10 PM
I got one of those emails from Kate Thompson titled www.donatellashead.com It was all about how to improve the running of your site and make the most of internet space etc. If you are not getting this then sign up with us. I usually just delete them.

Can't wait for the RR
love and hugs
erin
;@)

Yikes! This *is* a while ago. Are people still getting these emails? Funny, I don't think I've ever gotten this specific one. Anyway, this is the end of the backed up posts. I shall try my darndest to not let this happen again. And just to keep you all smiling, I have some smut coming up soon.
~Donatella

Saturday, March 01, 2003 10:44 AM
Glad everyone's feeling better! I was wondering what was going on! I am on day 4 without a cigarette! I hope I can keep on goin! ~mickysgirl~

Wow, congrats. I couldn't go an hour without one. I'm most impressed.
~Donatella

Sunday, March 02, 2003 5:07 PM
Hi one and all,

Gee...It's been a long time since I was last in here. It seems so quiet and everything. I guess with no Monkees this or Monkees that going on, things have come to a near halt in Monkeedom. I haven't really babbled about the guys in months, and I do mean months. So, if I may have permission, from our goddess Dona, I would like to post a comment or two.

First, I see there's another girl in here, who has slept with Micky. I read your post at another site. You seemed so eager to tell your story there, why won't you tell your story here? Dona told you that this is the best place to tell. No one's going to beat you with a stick for having had sex with the man. We want details, DAMMIT!! Trust me...there are no prudes here, like at many other sites. There are many of us out here, who would like to know all of the "thick and juicy" tidbits.

I think there was a question asked many months ago, by another new person, if Micky fucks around a lot? It is in my opinion that he does. He may not have many women that he messes around with, but the ones he does have around, he FUCKS their brains out at every chance he gets.

It's no wonder Mike was the dominant one. He knew if he gave Mick a inch, he'd take a foot or two. Well now that Mike seems to be out of the picture, Micky's out sniffing under every girls dress, at least those that will let him. :)

Speaking of Mike and Micky, I did take the time to read LT's new story. It was definitely interesting to see how things turned out in that one. One thing is for sure, M/M slash is something I have missed a great deal.

And lastly, for now anyway. I have been meaning to tell everyone about a video I purchased late last year. It has it's interesting moments, but the part of the video that caught my eye was when, Mike kissed Micky! I was shocked and thrilled all at the same time. In my eyes, it was such a sweet and loving gesture, on their part. The video is from the 1986 Monkees convention. During a music segment, they show various clips from the show and other things that were going on in 1986, with the group. When right smack dab in the middle, Mike put's his arm around Micky, and gives him a big kiss on the cheek! The looks that those two were giving each other were wonderful and tender. We all knew that there was a lot of love between them, but for them to have a very weak moment like this, and have it taped, was just something that only a Monkee fan, could love and appreciate.

Well that's all for now.

Fuzzy;)

It seems our Mick-fucker has disappeared into I-fucked-a-Monkee oblivion. Too bad, I was looking forward to some new details. Oh well, I've seen that video clip you're talking about. Mike does seem full of sparks when he plants that kiss on Micky and Mick just stands there in the afterglow - Oh what mind-blowing sex sessions those two must've had.
~Donatella

Monday, March 03, 2003 1:26 AM
Just in case you were all wondering about Micky's debut in Aida:

Micky Dolenz, famous for the 60s TV show "The Monkees", debuted Tuesday night in the role of Radames' father, the villainous, power-hungry Zoser. Despite the camouflage of a white wig, it was obvious the audience recognized Dolenz' famous face by the rise of murmurs when he walked on stage. He belted out "Another Pyramid" and "Like Father Like Son" while dancers swirled around him to the fast-paced rock music with funky modern movements.

**

Excuse me...Micky in a white wig...belting out a song called "Another Pyramid"...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Oh dear. There, I'm better now.
- LT

Ewwww. I have such douche chills about this whole thing. Why can't the man just fade away gracefully? And he wants to do this on B'way - Oh, the agony.
~Donatella

Tuesday, March 04, 2003 6:40 AM
Hey all

Fuzzy!!!! So nice to hear from you, I thought u had imigrated or summit!! I too have that footage of Mike kissing Micky, it is easily one of the highlights of that whole interview. I also love the pure joy shining across Micky's face the whole time Mike is on screen. He fights his way through the press, ignoring their questions, just to get to Mike's side. Now that's devotion!!!

Thanks for the review LT of Mick's stage debut. Eeekk!!! White wig - instant turn off. I am always torn between the fact that the Monkees should retire from the limelight and whether they should keep touring/acting etc. I mean I guess if they weren't touring, I would have never met him, but when I see them acting like chimps (like the pun!!!) I just wish they would hang up their mics and have done with it.

love and hugs
erin
;@)

Oh yes, they need to throw in the towel, and fast. It's only getting worse with age.
~Donatella

Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:22 PM
Hey Everyone...

I know you are chatting RIGHT NOW...but I haven't figured out the IM thingy...someday...

Anyway, WB Fuzzy! Long time no speak! Dreat to hear from you. Dona, "douce chills"...whoa...how descriptive...might have to use that some time!

As for Micky's Aida debut...he has one goal and one goal only (IMHO)...to GET TO BROADWAY BEFORE DAVY...that's all....probably some line he threw out in the middle of their fighting summer before last...he he he

Happy chatting!

JG

You haven't figured out the IM thingy? What exactly is the problem, luv? It's really very easy. I'm glad you like my little description, just make sure you use it correctly. Definition: "douche chills", noun - 1. to be embarrassed for someone else. 2. So embarrassed for another person that you cringe with the douche chills.

So you think Mick and Davy have a bet about Broadway? I thought Davy was on B'way when he was young. Someone set me straight.
~Donatella

Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:53 PM
What, exactly, would we consider a "proper" job for a 57 year old entertainer?

mc

Hmm, good question. I think it depends on the 57 year old entertainer. In Micky's case, it's just sad and pathetic to see him still struggling with his delusion of pop star. He was *very* lucky 35 years ago, and he simply doesn't have enough talent to sustain even an inkling of that image. I think many young "stars" no when to call it quits after a few rejections, but some don't, like our dear Micky and the Troll. They should both be retired.
~Donatella

Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:13 PM
I haven't dropped off the face of the planet. Just haven't had time to come back to the site. So what do you all want to know about my encounters with Micky (there were four of them in different cities). Are there other regulars at this site that have been with Micky? I'd like to join you all for a chat one day too! Mick's Girl

AH! You are still out there - wonderful. There are some others here who have been with a Monkee or two. You can tell us anything you'd like to tell us, or not, it's up to you. We're pretty willing to listen to anything and I promise you no one will flame you - you're under Donatella's protective goddess shroud. If you'd like to spill your guts in a more private setting then you can meet us all in the next chat on Tuesday night at 9 pm est. We're all looking VERY forward to hearing your Mick insight.
~Donatella

Chat Night - 9pm est.

Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:48 PM
I havent seen this interview with Mike and Micky! Why do i always have to leave it to my imagination!!! (pouts uncontrollably). I'm watching Head at the mo, usually i don't bother because i know practically every scene off by heart, but i decided to and i realised that a lot of it is quite amusing.(lol). I'm waffling i know.

oh well, glad to see everyone back and healthy and nice to see you fuzzy!!!

Luv ya shotguns

wtm

xx

Oh, it's always much better to leave things to your imagination - it's usually much dirtier than the real thing anyway.
~Donatella

Thursday, March 06, 2003 6:09 PM
Hi Erin and JG! It has been a long time.

As for the questions that have been put at hand.

MC and I have discussed this question before. For me personally, I am really pretty sick of the Monkees as a whole. I'm not a fan of Mike, Peter or Davy by any means. Perhaps Mike was doing the right thing by staying away from concerts and recording all together. But from what I have heard recently, he's got a new album coming out, and from what I could gather from the Monkees "Justus" album, his voice has been long gone. He should probably stick with producing and suing other companies to make a living. Hell, he's done pretty good so far with that career choice. I'd like to ask a question, if I may. How is it that Peter actually makes a living performing? That man absolutely has no singing voice. He sounds like a cat being severely tortured. He's so damn awful when it comes to singing. And as for Davy, well he's lost it pretty much too. Of course for the troll thinks he's the best damn looking fuck head around. He's got a damn shed built over his tool, incase no one has noticed. How he's managed to find his dick over the years is beyond me. As for his musical talent, I have always thought Davy sounded like shit. The man just sucks. Now as for Micky and his talents, yes, I admit, I am biased. I will admit that he's not a good actor, but out of the four of them, he's the only one that can sing. I for one am absolutely thrilled that he's doing something, other than Monkee crap. I really don't know if I could have stood to hear "Last Train To Clarksville" one more time. ARGH!!! It will be interesting to see how he does in Aida.

The other question that was brought at hand was from Mick's girl. The answer is yes, there are one or two regulars in here, that have fucked Micky, and on more than one occasion. i guess the man enjoys keeping his dick in shape. Feel free to tell us everything and anything. Let us know when you'll be in a chat, and I'm sure that someone will be there to compare notes with.

Fuzzy;)

"...a shed over his tool..."? I have an odd picture in my head. What the fuck do you mean by that? I can agree that Micky is the only one who can sing - hey, maybe if he sang on stage covered in a burlap bag he'd be easier to take; but then I've always been for duct taping his mouth shut so there wouldn't be much left.
~Donatella

Thursday, March 06, 2003 8:51 PM
Well, I definitely have to agree with you that none of the guys reached the pinnacle of fame due to their own talents. All of them were mediocre at best. They just happened to be in the right place at the right time. (And it didn't hurt that some of them looked pretty darn good.) But I have a problem with this idea of forced retirement. Consider that none of us will ever be at the top in our profession - or even in our leisure activities. There will always be better writers, artists, golfers, etc. Does that mean we should stop doing what we enjoy? Not in my opinion. mc

It doesn't really have anything to do with how good you are, but it's different in the entertainment industry than any other because you're doing your thing very publicly just looking for some attention. Unfortunately, your looks (and shapely ass) are still a big part of what you do as an entertainer - a big reason why they became Monkee's to begin with. If Mick were a great singer or went on to do some really wonderful work in the field, it would be different 'cause that's just how the industry works - you need that respect to keep going. Mike understood that; the others didn't.
~Donatella

Friday, March 07, 2003 10:11 PM
Good looks and a shapely ass can be very important to an entertainer. But it depends on the kind of entertainment you're providing. As far as I can tell, only one of them still thinks of himself as a sex symbol, and it's not Micky. (It's not Mike or Peter either.) They're not going to fill a huge arena with fans, but there's obviously still a market out there for their talents - such as they are. So, why stop doing what they like to do? It's not like they have some sacred duty to the public to provide only high quality entertainment.

mc

Well, it's the outside perception that I find so annoying. The fans are a big part of the problem. As you well know, those fans are mostly the psycho's that fill the seats (present company excluded). So it projects this weird image of the whole scene being an obsession filled frenzy with a lack of any outside reasoning to see it for what it is: a has-been celebrity still on stage after 35 years. I'm not saying it doesn't have some virtue, but even that relies on sentimentality more than anything else. But for some of us who see it from the other side, it's just plain... douche chilling 'cause it means that the performers don't have the clear head to see it themselves, or are just in denial, or too drunk. Whatever it is, it makes me cringe. It's not a sacred duty to the public, it's a duty to themselves and their own self worth. I mean, what the fuck? Have some self respect and stop pretending you're a real entertainer. I think if they really loved what they were doing so much, then they wouldn't have to stay drunk 24/7 to keep themselves in the land of denial, and they certainly don't look very happy.
~Donatella

Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:57 PM
Hmmm...well, they still have bills to pay and fans who want to see them so there it is. Mike was luckiest of the four in that he hasn't had to worry about that for quite awhile, what with the inheritance and the lawsuits, etc. I'd still be interested in seeing them try something different.
----Arrowhead

That's another good point. There are certainly *much* easier ways to make a living, and I'm sure these tours and what-not aren't making them rich. They did try their hands at other "skills" for a while, and only came back to the Monkee's bullshit when someone decided to resurrect them from the dead via an anniversary or TV movie. Then, all of a sudden, they're touring again after convincing themselves they wouldn't have anything to do with it anymore. Well, that was forgivable for a while, but I think they've worn out their welcome at this point. Now they're just milking what little is left of that Monkee image to keep a few traveling gigs. Enough already!
~Donatella

Sunday, March 09, 2003 12:31 AM
This is to MicksGirl, where, & when did the 2 of ya'll hook up? Do ya'll talk a lot? Have you made plans to see eachother now that he's hitched?

Suzzz

Hmmm, this sounds familiar.
~Donatella

Sunday, March 09, 2003 9:22 AM
Okay, i may be a bit biased here, but i believe Michael would have been famous without the Monkees. I've listened to his solo albums, read his book and poetry, and am eagerly awaiting the new book and album he's working on. His talents seem limitless, and i love his voice. Actually, i think he would have been MORE successful without the Monkees. Mick and the Troll have to lean on the Monkees to maintain their success, Michael doesn't. He's prospering without them. As for Pete, i haven't heard his solo stuff so i can't judge. Oh, and LT? Nona was FABULOUS!! How can anyone follow that?
-Jade

I have to agree... almost. I think Mike is really full of himself and not as talented or as smart as he thinks he is. Back to that outside perception of one's own image; Mike has gone in the other direction, but at least he gains some respect for not milking the Monkee. Mike's a shrewd guy and probably would have gone on to do something with a non-Monkee life. Then again, he did have the benefit of mom's success, so it is easier for him to make his choices. But I still say that after the Monkee's, Mike should've quit the music biz and gone on to acting - he was good then - could've been great today.
~Donatella

Sunday, March 09, 2003 11:37 AM
When I said Davy is building a shed over his tool, I meant that Davy's stomach isn't as flat as it once was, and is beginning to hang over his belt. So now it hides his dick. Okay...so it sounds like one of Micky's typical analogies.

Getting back to the subject of entertainer's, specifically, The Monkees, continuing in the business. I have to add that I agree with some of what you said Dona. Yes, many entertainers don't have the talent that they need to continue in this business. I feel Peter should have become a session musician, let's face it he has no other talent other than being a musician. He can't sing and he can't act. Davy should go on a strict diet, and stick to horse racing. What little voice he once had has gone by the way side. His cuteness is no longer there. And lets be honest, that was what he truly depended on, when he was famous. Micky, at least can carry a tune. I so wish he would have had someone give him the guidance he so needed when he was younger. If he had worked on it, he could have been something so much more, than being a Monkee. And yes Dona, we all know how much you'd like to put duct tape around his mouth and a bag over his head. Who knows...he'd probably like that. As for Mike, I don't think the man has learned a damn thing. He has never really made much of a living doing anything creative. He had some success in the late 70's, but thought that would carry him through life. If he had realized that he had no talent and had no business doing the entertainment thing, I think he should have shelved the album, he's been working on for the past two years. I have said this before, his voice left him years ago. He can't write any songs that have substance. He's tried to be a novelist, and failed at that, yet the word out on the street, is he want's to torture more souls, with yet another book! The only thing Mike is good at, is his suing of large companies. If he didn't have the knack of being a real son of a bitch, then he'd be in the poor house.

I think people go to see one or all four of them, because it takes us back to a time when we were innocent and childlike. A time we can never get back. And so why shouldn't they make money doing what they do. As long as people pay to see them, I say GO FOR IT!


Fuzzy ;)

Who started this fucking topic anyway?

I know you Micky fans like to see him when he comes around to your town to do his shtick, and god knows, I wouldn't want to deprive anyone of that. BUT, I'd rather hear that Mick was happy and successful doing something else that he was really good at and that he really enjoyed. That would let me know that this man has it together and was able to let go of the past.
~Donatella

Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:28 PM
Good point! Who DID start this topic? It certainly brought all us old junkies out of the woodwork. I almost hated to see someone remark on Mike's "great" talent, because that always sets me off. The man has talent, as all of them do, but I'd hardly place in the "great" category. Only a true Mike fan would describe him that way. As for what they could've achieved with the proper guidance, who knows? At this point, it doesn't really matter.

While I'm a Micky fan, I'm not all that anxious to see him doing anything now. I just don't agree that he (or anyone) should crawl in a hole and die because he's no longer young and gorgeous. As for doing something other than being a Monkee, isn't that what he's trying to do now? And we're STILL criticizing him for it - even without benefit of seeing his performance.


Sigh. Personally, I can't wait until we can all get this passionate again about discussing the virtues of their 20-something asses instead of their current-day careers (or lack of such.) mc

Yeah, that's a great idea. I hate talking about the present day guys, and frankly, I couldn't care less what they're doing. As far as I'm concerned, they only exist in the twenty-something version.
~Donatella

Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:26 PM
My last comment, on the subject of what they should be doing now. I think they should all get into the porn movie business. They can have Peter using his 10 or was it 12 inch, uncircumcised dick, I heard he has, and give everyone Herpes. He needs to clean that thing off before he uses it again. Mike can be the evil porn manager, that commits S&M acts on the other three, when they don't perform the way he wants them to. Micky can be the star, and show what he can really do with that beautiful mouth of his. And Davy...well, someone can shove his head up his own ass, since that's where it's at most of the time anyway.

Fuzzy ;)

I thought we already had Monkee porn.
~Donatella

Sunday, March 09, 2003 7:40 PM
I know this is slightly dated but... damn it! I was going to do the nekid dance! Hey would anyone oppose if I did one now? Nah I wont put any one throught that.
Stranger

You can do the nekid dance if you like. I don't think anyone minds.
~Donatella

Sunday, March 09, 2003 9:36 PM
Intersting question....what would each Monkee have been if not for the Monkees...here's my thoughts...

Mike...he WOULD have made it as a songwriter..and probably would have been rich before the "liquid paper" but we would not know who he was...

Micky...he would either have gone to college and worked...OR..he might have had a career in voice overs, cartoons and commericial singing..

Peter...he probably would have spent hiw whole life as a small-time musician in folk bands, etc....actually living not too differently than the way he does today...and probably STILL getting lots of sex..

Davy..would have been one of the child stars that couldn't make it as a grown up. He could have continued to take "child" roles well into his 20's and THEN...nothing. It KILLS me when he talks about his talent as an actor never having been utilized...when he was 18 he said he didn't like roles that were too unlike himself (like the glue-sniffer on Ben Casey)..uh, Davy...THAT is ACTING! I do not think that Davy will ever make it to Broadway again.

On a more positive note however...when I was 13 and watching TV just loving those boys if you'd told me as an an adult I would have met 3 of them and had my picture taken with 2 of them I think I would have thought that I was a famous person too! So their old age touring has given the teenage girl in me a little thrill. Ahhhhh......

JG

I'll buy that. Those are pretty good descriptions of what could've been. I especially like your take on Davy. I didn't know he said that. What a fucking idiot! No wonder his acting skills never got him anywhere.

Oh, one final note before I forget. Looks like Mick may never get to Broadway 'cause Broadway's on strike, and Aida is dark like all the musicals. The irony just kills me.
~Donatella

Monday, March 10, 2003 5:10 PM
Hello. *waves sheepishly* I havent been banished yet have i??? I know i know, i dont drop by much and when i do i talk crap...well sue me (actually don't i'm just a skint student)!!

Modern Monkees? Well, if everyone keeps giving them praise all the time, of course they're gonna keep on doing what they're doing!!! Stands to reason...that's why people like Chrsitina Uglyera are still in work!! I don't mind, although the whole huge ego thing bugs me a bit. When compared to Paul McCartney whose a little bit more famous than the Monkees (just a tad) who still uses public transport and calls everyone mate, i think our guys need to come back down to earth a little. But, oh well.

What would they be doing without the Monkees? I think JG got it pretty accurate. Although, i dont know how long Mike would've lasted, there's only so much record companies take before they throw u out. I think Micky may have ended up, if not in a regular job, then in small one-line parts in tacky sitcoms or something, u know, bit parts. (much like he seems to be doing now!!)
Peter would've probably been drugged to the eyeballs most of the time so i dont think he matters much. And then there's Davy...hmmmm....who cares??? NOT ME!

Well done LT on NONA! Absolutely fantastic, although you got me singing the song 'Winonah' all night!!!

luv ya shotguns

WTM

PS, its good to see the place buzzing again, i thought the box was on its last legs (i couldve sworn i heard an echo, but now you cant move for people...Erin, you're standing on my foot!)

xx

Wait a minute. Who the fuck is giving them praise? You mean the stupid psycho fans? I say that hardly counts as anything. And that WAS sarcasm you were using when you compared Beatles fame to the Monkees, right? I certainly hope so, otherwise you Brits are in need of major pop culture adjustment.

Anyway, I'm glad you're still hangin' around here, luv. I do hope you've been keeping those fingers busy writing smut smut smut! You simply cannot deprive us of your wonderful smut much longer.
~Donatella

Monday, March 10, 2003 9:46 PM
I missed something here. What's the nekid dance? mc

I think the nekid dance is something that HMC likes to do when she's bored.
~Donatella

Chat tonight 9pm est

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:12 PM
Wow, i was just about to post complaining about the lack of messages and here you all are!!! Nice to see you all (too many for personal hi's)

Great story LT, love your Nona <g>

Usually i am not short of words but reading the comments over the last few days I haven't got much to say - fuck it's already been said. Anyway I do have a quick summary:

1) Monkees today - Now i have met them i can say - GIVE UP, GIVE UP NOW
2) Monkees careers - Not sure I would know who Davy was if it wasn't for the Monkees, Peter neither. Mike may be successful in the US but not over here and Micky, well if he had still come over to the UK, i may have watched something he directed but apart from that obvilion (after all I watched Metal Micky when I was 5 LOL)
3) The British Pop Culture - I am sure WTM was joking, otherwise I will march round her house and give her a severe talking too. The Beatles (British) invented, The Monkees (USA) copied - nuff said. I think we know our culture - ha ha!!!!

Have I missed anything????

Glad to have u all back
love and hugs
erin
;@)

It is kind of strange how we all came out of our caves at the same time. I can only blame myself for not being the goddess leader I should be. Now, I'm glad that it wasn't a Brit thing WTM was talking about; I almost lost my respect for you people. The Monkees don't even come close to the Beatles, it's sacrilege to even suggest it! The Monkees may have been sexy, but it ends there. Note: I'd also fuck John, Paul, George and even Ringo - just to keep the record straight.
~Donatella

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:25 PM
Well I take a little vacation from my computer and I return to find ya'll going on... I just spent the last two days throwing away the rest of my money so why hold on to my last TWO cents.

First... Nez was born with talent, and still at 60 is ozzing with more then the rest of us will ever have. I am not a never say die Monkee fan. But I became a never say die Michael Nesmith fan just 4 years ago. So my love for the man is not reliving my teen years. I grew to enjoy The 60's era Monkees as a way to get all I could of the evolution of Nesmith.
As for the money issue that always comes up. Nez has been belittled from the begining because he managed to get his songs on the Monkees albums. Just to make money.Well duh!!! You have a talent,you have a family,you have goals... Since when was the music industry or TV for that matter a pure virgin form. Talented people like Nez,have a need to preform, to be heard. But other than that it's there livelyhood there bread and butter just like working at the Wal-mart.

Then there is the throwing out of the "Well his mother invented and left him a fortune blah blah... If you know your facts, Nez did his share to help the foundling business, then went out to make his own way with close to no help from his Mother and her growing business. And along with the other Monkees Nez made more money then most of us will ever see. But as those other Monkees have found out hanging on the money is no easy task. Nez did hang on to his. And made more long before his Mother passed and left him what was RIGHTFULLY his. And if you know the whole store of Nez & PBS. They were the ones that forced his hand into court....

Again back to Nez and his talent. Had he not been a Monkee. Had he let some one take care of the marketing of Nesmith. I think he would have been hugely famous and probably even richer...But even though of course he wants to make money with his indevors, he insists on doing it his way. Which has never been the best way to capitalize on his talent.

It would be my educated guess that Nez is either Manic Depressive or Bi- polar. Which explaines why One time he is calm, layed back, fun, funny, talanted. He is every joe, he relates to everyone. And the next time you see him he is ultra intellectlual, self entertaining, and seems to do every thing in his power to ensure that no one understands where he is coming from or what he is trying to say. That having been said. His voice is beautiful, full, enchanting. His story telling is just that stories. Entertaining, and thought provoking, I have read his book twice and I am now listening to his audio CD in which his ability to verbally communicate the visions he is drawing in our mind is breath taking ,stunning and just plain awsome....

I am 44 years old, married 21years, I have 2 sons, 2 grand sons, one granddaughter, I work 40 hours plus a week. I enjoy time with my friends, my family. I love spending time away from it all with my husband whom I adore.
My Name is Mistress Nez, And enjoying, the talent of Michael Nesmith is a luxury I deserve and allow myself to wallow in......

Well, thanks for telling us about yourself - it's so rare to hear it. What always surprises me though, is that, excluding a few youngin's, we're all about the same age with hubbies and kids. I guess Head is for the older crowd - thank god. Anyway, you sound like a very devoted Nez fan, but lets take a step back and look at this with a little perspective. Now, I would consider myself a Nez fan too; I love his tight young ass (key word being "young"), and beautiful crazy eyes, and oh yes, his ass. I also like his sense of humor and I respect the man for knowing he's too old to be touring like he did in the 60's. However, the man's no genius. I know he likes to think he is, but he has no idea of what the fuck he's talking about. He has his own concepts on how things work which simply don't stand up to the real world test.

As far as his mental condition, I think he's probably the only one that's somewhat satisfied with himself and fairly happy in his life compared to the other three. He may indeed show two different sides to himself as you brought up, but we all do that, and we're all not diagnosed as manic depressive or bi-polar (which would be pretty rare for a man). I think it has more to do with the artistic temperament rather than any disorder - oh, I do think he's a bit anti-social, but hey, so am I.

I'm well aware of the PBS story, and you're right, he gets a bad rap for that b/c of his reputation for being a bastard and the fact that it was PBS! - it makes him look heartless no matter how right he was to sue. I've read Neftoon and I have to tell you that I couldn't get through the whole book, to be frank, he put me to sleep, and I found nothing thought provoking about it. With that said, I still find Mike very hot (young version only) and I can forgive all his shortcomings because it's a part of him that makes him sexy in the first place. The man isn't perfect (sans his ass), and there's nothing wrong with that. Who wants a perfect person? How boring. I like him just the way he is (was), with all the faults intact.
~Donatella

Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:23 PM
I'll agree with what they would be doing also. I agree with you Dona, I really don't care about what they do now. I guess sort of to a certain point, but I still think of them as 20 something too. The last concert I went to was back in the 80's and that was because that was when I started to like them and know who they were, but I probably wouldn't go if there were another one(god i hope there isn't I think enough is enough also)~mickysgirl~

Well, I'm glad SOMEONE agrees with me. I didn't even go their concert when they were playing right here in mid-town - just couldn't bring myself to do it.
~Donatella

Friday, March 14, 2003 2:23 AM
WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS MISS THE F**KING POINT!!??? I was in no way comparing the Monkees to the Beatles, especially not talent wise!!! GRRRRR!!!! Obviously, no one did understand what i was saying! (does an angry stomping around her room). I was saying that the Monkees' egos are way too inflated for what they are. I was saying that Paul McCartney, who, because of his greatness is entitled to a massive ego, does not have a big ego. In other words, The Monkees are too bigheaded whereas people like Paul, who are BETTER than them, are not so bloated.

I hope i get an apology!!! NO WAY would i compare the two bands, NO WAY!!! I'm annoyed. And I would like to have thought that it was just my British way of writing things that confused my american friends, but no, Erin can't understand me either!!!!!! GRRRR! What future have I?


Luv ya shotguns


WTM (who is sulking severely)

xx

Whoa girl! It's OK, really. Just a little misinterpretation, that's all. BTW, you're allowed to say "fucking" here, babe. Anyway, I'm sorry I made you so angry about this; I just wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic or not. I mean, that's what it sounded like. But now that you've clarified, I'm not so sure the Monkees have inflated ego's now. The only way they seem able to carry on is by staying constantly buzzed. It's not like they're playing to huge arena's anymore. If they're bigheaded, then it's the effect of some extreme denial.
~Donatella