Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:40 PM
You go Paula!  You expressed my thoughts perfectly!!

Which is why I vote for In My Head, and why we are still #1 in the poll!

-leenys


Yeah!  We're #1 again!  And that's where we deserve to be, dammit!
~Donatella



Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:17 PM
Please bare with me regarding this post. Today while I was at work I had the most boring job duty to perform; I had to look through over a hundred negatives. But while I was doing this I popped my DDB dvd in the old computer and basically listened while I worked. I listened to most of but not all of Micky,Davy, and Peter's commentaries. As I listened I felt like I was actually learning more about these four guys, remember...I "see" words. First with Davy...he gave the most insight into what was happening at the time. His part of the interview was actually long and drug out. But he tried, in his own slow way, to tell us what it was like to be a Monkee. He spoke about how mean Bob and Bert actually were. He spoke highly of Peter a few times, made fun of Micky...he actually said that Micky should be happy with the person they got to play his part...he actually has hair...LOL! Yes, even I laughed at that. Davy didn't paint a pretty picture of Mike and neither did Peter. Although they both admit that there really weren't the kind of fights within the band, where Mike was concerned, that the movie tried to portray. As Peter said; Mike somehow managed to control the group. He wasn't sure how he did it but someway Mike tok over. He didn't want the Monkees to succeed as a group, "HE" wanted to succeed, with his music. Although I am not yet finished with Peter's part in the dvd. He did say that Micky should have been the front man of the group, and Davy would have made a really good drummer. And Micky...? Well, for the most part, he kept very quiet during all of the arguing scene's. He basically made fun of everything, and really wasn't taking the movie all too seriously. In fact he just seemed plain bored with it, to me. And personally...I don't blame him.

The fact of the matter is this.  I truely believe that Micky, Peter and Davy have a great deal of hidden respect for each other. As much fucking whiney and bullshit that they have created in the past 7-8 months; I think there will always be a very special bond between them. Unfortunately, Mike is not included. Mike has been potrayed by both Davy and Peter as a controlling SOB. I personally could hear it in the tones of their voices that they both have bitter feelings for Mike. Micky, well, like I said earlier he didn't commment...which is just how he is, he keeps quiet. I too, have lost a great deal of respect for Mike. I use to respect him for not touring with the guys, but he really was/is no better than the other three, in fact he's worse. I don't think any of them would have been very successful had it not been with the Monkees. Micky, Davy and Peter have admitted that at one time or another. At least they have admitted that they know where their bread and butter came from. Mike has never appreciated the Monkees. He hated them from the very start. He knew what he was getting himself into, but he thought he could change it all when he got in there. Sound's like a woman who get's a man and after they're married tries to change him to fit her needs and wants. That's all bullshit. Mike would have been rich, thanks to mommy, but he never would have made it where he is today, if it had not have been for the Monkees. The man needs reality to slap him right in the fucking face.  Fuzzy:)


Um...OK, Fuzzy.  We believe you.  I hope you feel better now getting all that off your chest.  You do have some good insights here.  I didn't know that Daydream Believers DVD was such a good study tool.
~Donatella



Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:42 AM
Wow, Fuzzy!  You studied that show, didn't you?

I'd like to think the guys have respect for each other.  I just wish they'd have the guts to show it.

-leenys


I don't think it has to do with having the guts to show it.  I think they're all just extremely stubborn, and no one wants to admit they're wrong.
~Donatella

Smut Alert

Part II of WTM's new saga:  "The Chameleon"  is now posted.

Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:55 AM
It's so amazing to me, how a writer can make a person get so angry and frustrated, with a character. This is what WTM has done to me with "Chameleon." I am so pissed off at how Peter wormed his way out of really good beating, and to top it off he made Micky look like the nut-case. I can't believe that Mike is just a fucking idiot that he's going to believe Peter over Micky. Personally, I'd like to beat Peter to a pulp myself...Not the real Peter, Paula and Vanity. LOL:) Another thing that amazes me, is that even though "they" think he's a nut, he's always the one that "they" want. Why is that? I am liking this story very much WTM,Although by the time this story is over I may be wanting to kick some Monkee ass.  I am hopeful that Micky will get his revenge on Peter, and that it will be good....very,very good.

Back to the DDB DVD. Peter briefly mention in his commentary that the three of them had a falling out in September. He didn't say much about why, but he did say that he didn't know when they would get back together. So what...Does this mean in four years there will be the Monkees 40th. anniversary tour?  He also commented on his fight with Davy, when Davy had to get stitches. He said that Davy started it and that it was at a concert. He said he was being a.......really bad person. I think he wanted to say something like; he was being a dick head, or bastard, something other than, a really bad person. Too bad this dvd is rated PG, I would have liked to have heard EXACTLY what they had to say. Peter went on to say that he has a lot of affection for each of these guys. It vary's in different ways, of course. Watching and listening to Peter. I think Peter has more affection for Micky than for any of the others, and I think Mike is the one he dislikes the most. Davy also has more affection for Micky than for the other two, and he dislikes Mike the most. Micky has affection for all three of them...the whore. He never really said anything bad about any of them. Still thew same old Mick.  He said in his interview, that he got really close with all of them....Naturally. Fuzzy:)


Yeah, Pete's a pretty nasty character in that story.  But it's about time we saw a Peter with some balls and personality, even if he is crazy.  So it seems everyone likes Micky and Micky likes everyone - in RL and in our stories, how convenient.  I have to get this DVD now, I'm really curious to see it for myself.
~Donatella



Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:06 AM
Wow Fuz, i really want to see this DVD now, no i am deprived and don't own a player yet.

A friend of mine just send me a load of interviews from over the years 60,'s 80's and now and like you say Davy don't like Mike one little bit, however Micky always defends him. Did Mick seem nervous in that interview to you cause whenever i see him on anything he looks real jittery.

cool analysis anyway
erin


Lets face it, Micky has always been in love with Mike and still is today.  If Mike would marry him, Mick would drop Donna like a hot potato.  As for interviews, I think he always looks a bit nervous too.
~Donatella



Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:54 PM
When i watch any British press about the monkees, the press aways believe that Mike was the real musician. I think this why Peter is so wazzed off.Mike is definately seen as the best songwriter and musician over here. Peter seems to think that he was the high and mighty musician and that Mike could just play a few chords. I think he was real pissed off with his whole 'dummy' image too. I mean, who wants a dummy when u can have Mike, bastard or not? I know what i'd chose.
Micky always kisses Mike's ass, just like the liner notes for Justus, which he says was all thanx to Mike. Micky's very dependable in the licking boots department (amoung other things *raised eyebrow*)

Glad all of u r liking my new little story, I see Peter better watch out from Fuzzy on the loose. There should be more soon dont worry. *mischiveious Micky grin*

Well, must dash,

Luv ya shotguns

WTM

xx


I think that reasoning is pretty much the same over here.  The only Monkee that is seen as having any talent at all is Mike.  And yes, Micky is a world class ass-kisser when it comes to his one true love, Mike.
~Donatella



Thursday, March 14, 2002 5:11 PM
Donatella, did you ever get the story I sent you?

HMC


How timely.  Yes, love, I did get your wonderful new fic, which I have just posted.
~Donatella

Smut Alert

HMC has finally decided to write smut again!  The first part of
" 54 Monkees Jumping on the Bed"  is now posted.

Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:00 PM
HMC - nice beginning dear.  Mike seems to be in control (when is he not.  Micky is having a good time as usual.  And Davy and Peter are one their own in their little side venture, Davy the lover is a hooker and Peter is looking for love in all the wrong places.
How's that for a summary.

ANd WTM - love our new story.  Though I wish Mike was a bit smarter and beat the crap out of Peter for what he did.  Now Mike is gone for a few days and anything can happen.  And we know what happens to Micky if things go to long with out love.  He gets desperate. So anything can happen.


Paula C.


Yep, these are two pretty darn good stories we have started here.  I know they will both live up to their potentials.  And what a nice surprise to see HMC writing again!
~Donatella



Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:27 PM
This will be the last of my posts regarding DDB dvd...and no I haven't really been watching it. The movie itself, SUCKS! I've just been listening to the interviews and to the commentaries. Today I listened to the film director...whatever his name is. Sorry big guy, I wasn't paying too much to the credits. There's a scene that was edited from the original airing on VH1. It's during the concert/chase scene of Steppin' Stone. In the last scene where Davy takes over the drum and Micky jumps out on front, as Aaron is jumping and twisting the director said that they had to do that shot more than once, because Aaron kept ripping his pants. I wish they would have left just one of those ripped scenes in...damn them! As the scene went on Aaron is jumping around, kind of like Micky use to on stage. He said that the one thing he was worried about during that concert scene, was that they girls would rip his wig off.  His WHAT!? He said all of the guys had to wear wigs. I knew the Davy, Peter, and Mike characters had wigs, but I actually thought that that was really Aarons' hair. If that was the case, then why didn't they put straight hair on Aaron, and then shift to the curly hair? Dumb fucks...get it right. Oh well, at least Mick's soft curls were the real thing.

The director also made a comment about the actual DDB music video part. He said he got a lot of flack from the audience. Mainly because he didn't present them right. They were all dressed in white for the movie, but in all actuality they weren't. Where the hell was Micky's backwards 8 button shirt? Jeeeez...  Fuzzy:)


Awe, the last of your reviews? I'm sure you can find more to talk about, Fuzzy.  So that was a wig, huh?  I thought it was real too.  No wonder Aaron looked so cute in that movie; I don't think he ever looked as good as when he was playing Micky. 
~Donatella



Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:54 PM
I wonder if I am the youngest person in here.... I just realized that I feel younger with people calling me dear, and love.  Heehee, I'm just a wee little school girl again!  Ah...  Anyhoo, are there any other 18-year olds in here?

HMC


Yes, I think you are the youngest in the BB.  Most of us are old enough to be your mother!  EEK!!  But that's not why I called you 'love', I just thought it sounded cute and you always remind me of cute.
~Donatella



Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:00 PM
Awww.... thanks Donatella!  Hugs will now be administered.

HMC


You're welcome.  And thanks for the hug.
Donatella



Friday, March 15, 2002 1:58 AM
Hey. i'm a little 'un too! I only turned 18 a couple of months ago!!! Ur not on ur own HMC...

luv ya shotgun

WTM
xx


I didn't know you were only 18.  I thought you were more like 20.  Sorry youngin'.
~Donatella



Friday, March 15, 2002 2:06 AM
Hello, me again,...just to say to HMC, wow that story's cool...I love the description of Mike. I have to go to college now and i'll be thinking of that all day!!!

luv ya shotgun

wtm

xx


Yep, it was a good start she turned out.  You youngin's can really write!
~Donatella

Smut Alert

Part V of Paula C's "Where Is Micky?"  is now posted for your reading pleasure.

Friday, March 15, 2002 1:09 PM
hi all

i think it is wrong of the UK press to assume that Mike was better than Peter, ok he wrote good tunes don't get me wrong but i personally think Peter was the superior musician. He does seem bitter about the "dummy" label, on that Hey Hey We're The Monkees docu, he makes a clear point to the camera that there is some difference between him and the Peter Tork character - sarcastic bugger!!!

Fuz once again i agree with you girl about the DDB video, why are they in white, Micky looks a sexy fuck in that backwards shirt, why didn't they let Aaron wear it, he would have looked good!!!!

I have just got in from work so haven't write the stories yet but i loved the first part of WTM so look forward to the next.  I have finally started my story, it may be slow going though and i may have to call on some of you experienced writers for some guidance, but i willing to take a shot.


Exactly what do you mean by "Mike was better than Peter"?  Pete may have played more instruments, but I think Mike had more talent, and a better ass of course, but that goes without saying.  So Pete's not a complete imbecile, so what?  He still thinks he's a lot smarter than he actually is.  Anyway, so you've started your own story?  Wonderful, now if I only knew who you were.  No matter, if you need help, that's what we're here for.
~Donatella



Friday, March 15, 2002 10:22 PM
Hey Dona. (I'm back!)
I just wanted to tell you that I am having trouble sending something to the
black box. Just thought you should know.
"The Stranger"


Well, hi Stranger.  I was indeed wondering what happened to you.  If you ever have problems with the subition box, then just e-mail your post to me with Black Box in the subject.  Glad to have you back.
~Donatella



Saturday, March 16, 2002 4:01 AM
Hello. I'm bored and i thought i'd give myself the challenge of guessing the anonymous 'mike was better than Peter' post - could it possibly be Erin??? It was just the word 'bugger'...its doesnt appear much here, so i'm assuming that she's a brit...

luv ya shotguns

WTM

xx


Yes, I suspect Erin too.  You're right, the 'bugger' gaver her away and she is a Brit.
~Donatella



Saturday, March 16, 2002 6:00 AM
Sorry Dona, i forgot to sign the last post - whoops!

i wasn't trying to imply that Mike was better than Peter, i was just answering in reposnse to what someone said about the British Press.  I know you love Mike's butt and i watching I Was A Teenage Monster last night and i must admit it looks pretty damn fine in that, anyway i merely stated that Peter was the superior musician NOT songwriter or prouducer.

thanks for the offer of help despite not knowing it was me

Erin


That's OK, we kind of guessed it was you, Erin.  As for this Mike vs. Peter thing, I still say there's no contest when it comes to raw talent:  Mike had it and Pete didn't.  Yeah, Pete could play all those instruments, but he didn't know what to do with them.  I understood what you were saying before, I'm just not sure I agree with Peter being a superior anything.  Oh, and the offer for writer help still stands even if I know who you are.
~Donatella



Saturday, March 16, 2002 11:28 AM
Hi Strangers!  I feel SO out of the loop.  I am trying to get a handle onreal life...I'll let you know.  In the mean time... Dona, I'll apologize in advance to you...but according to the ticket outlets up here The Monkees are touring again.  Not Micky/Davy and Barry William, but the Monkees.  Does that mean they took Peter back after all the harsh words?  Did they make up?  LOL!  I am SEEING Peter tonight (Shoes Suede Blues) so I'll do my best to find out the story.  TOO FUNNY!

Also, I've been trying to deal with my email address changing against my will.  I tried to send out personal reminders, but FYI mediaone.net has become attbi.com.  One more headache in my life.  I HOPE to make it to the chat Tuesday if I can.  I have been keeping up with the stories...keep up the great writing!

JG


Hi JG, we missed you.  I guess that e-mail problem explains why mine kept bouncing back as if your address didn't exist - I do hope you finally got it though.  So the three idiots may be getting back together?  Do they realize how stupid this makes them look?  Maybe they just really need some publicity for the tour.  God, how embarrassing.
~Donatella



Saturday, March 16, 2002 1:52 PM
On the possibility of the 3 of them getting back together:  I was lurking about and found a message board post that mentioned Peter having sent an apology letter to Micky after the National Enquirer story came out. Since that was the only mention of that I had ever seen, I kind of regarded it as bullshit, but who knows? Wouldn't it be nice if they could make up? Of course it would only be good for 6 months or so, then they'd be at each other's throats again.
----Arrowhead


I swear to god, I think the whole thing is just for publicity - they must be desperate.  I can't believe that three grown men can act like such children, so there must be another explanation.
~Donatella



Saturday, March 16, 2002 4:38 PM
:puts on best Alice Cooper impression: I'm 18

and I like it! Yes I'm a youngun too. Proud of it. Sorry I've been quiet
lately. I've just been so buisy with school and other stuff.
Stranger (who didn't mean to put my real name down the last time. Oh well)


Another one?  I didn't know we had such a young crowd in here.  Sorry about your name, Stranger, I took it down for you.
~Donatella



Saturday, March 16, 2002 6:17 PM
Apparently something was posted about Pete's letter to Mick in MBF, but I haven't seen it.  I really want to read that.

I love the show, "Who's Line is it Anyway?", which, for those who don't know, is an improv show.  There is a game where one person stands in front of a 'green screen' and acts like a news reporter on-the-scene, while two others act like commentators in the news studio.  The two in the studio have to give the one standing in front of the screen hints as to what is going on behind him.  In other words, he's commentating about the event behind him that he can't see, but we can, and has to guess what it is.  Makes sense?  The scene behind him was a group of monkeys playing around.  After throwing out various hints one guy finally says, "It looks like Michael Nesmith may be joining the party," and the guy guessing said, "Yes, and the other Monkees are expected to show up soon."

I find it funny that the one guy who wants to distance himself the most ends up being referred to.  Not Davy or Micky, who traditionally are the popular ones, but Mike.  The guy had to be a fan.

leenys, constantly tuning into the American and Brit version


Interesting, though I absolutely despise that show, so I don't watch it, but interesting how the name Mike Nesmith is on the tip of so many tongues.  I think it's because he played it so well - he's famous or infamous, for not participating with the group, so he's in a way become the most popular, while the other three look like ageing schmucks. 
~Donatella



Saturday, March 16, 2002 6:55 PM
Mike chants to himself "I'm not a Monkee, I'm not a Monkee"
Get over it will you.  You were part of the contrived media blitz of the mid '60s that made a lot of money and noterity for you.  Give up the ghost will you.  You have fans that only found out about you becuase of the show and have kept tabs on you ever sense.  You may have gained an inhertiance and yes you had insite in making videos and started the baby of an industry.  But you were a Monkee.
Paula c.
who wishes he would snap out of it and acknowledge the existance


I don't blame the bastard one bit for not wanting to be a part of this childish threesome of idiots.  Mike may be an asshole; he may be self-centered; he may even deny to himself many facts and try to rewrite history according to Mike Nesmith, but at least the man knows he's too old, fat, and feeble to be touring!  I give him credit for that and his nice ass.
~Donatella



Saturday, March 16, 2002 10:40 PM
Ah.... It all comes back to the ass, doesn't it?  Hee. It's all about the ass, baby.

HMC (sits back with a glass of wine and stares at a picture of Mike's ass for an hour.)


Of course.  What else is there to judge when you're talking about men?  Except for their cocks - that's all that matters.  Hey, are you old enough to drink?
~Donatella



Saturday, March 16, 2002 11:20 PM
I must differ with you on this one, Dona. Mike doesn't tour with the guys because he relizes he's fat and feeble. No...the fuck wad doesn't tour with them, because he thinks he's God's gift to all of them, and this makes him better than the rest.  If Mike's mom hadn't invented white out, and if he had not been in the Monkees; Mike Nesmith would be a lonely pile of shit! But...since Mike's mom DID invent white out, and he received a comfortable little nest egg,which in turn allowed him to get further himself into tv and videos, which in turn allowed him to sue PBS for MAJOR MILLIONS!!!  The man would never had made it on his own at any time, if he hadn't of become a Monkee. At least he could put that on his resume. It's better than having cow chip thrower on there. For those of you who have never lived in Texas...you don't want to know what cow chip thrower is...YUCK!

As for the other three touring, well, they've got to pay the bills. As a fan I can see that they do it because they like the funds. I wished it leaned a little towards the fact, that they liked doing it, but we can't have everything...can we?  I also do agree, that the childish sometimes ridiculous behavior that they have displayed over the years, has to stop at some point in time.  Then again...what do we expect from a bunch of men!?lol.  Fuzzy


Well, yeah, I agree with that too.  Mike would probably be in jail for murder if he hadn't gotten his hands on all that money.  But even if the Monkees never came along, he'd still have that nice little fortune from mommy, so what does he care?  He probably thinks that he never needed the Monkees because he could have done whatever he wanted anyway.  And I'm not so sure the Monkees helped his name any.  Remember they were very looked down on by critics and everyone else once it all ended - look at what poor Mick wound up doing.  Lucky for Mike he could just fade away 'cause he didn't need the money.
~Donatella



Sunday, March 17, 2002 11:02 AM
I read somewhere that if Mike hadn't have busted his hand and taken up guitar, he would have been in jail long ago. He was always up to something illegal apparently, always knocking around with gangs. Must have driven his poor mother mad. Although, i did read somewhere that at one point Peter felt bad for him coz Mike told him that most of his childhood was spent standing at the side of the road selling little bottles of white out just so they could eat.

And about touring, we all know they do it for the money, but i think Micky enjoys it too. I mean, he could always get money from doing his cartoon voices, and directing, but he does seem to like touring, its all the attention he gets, he's a big attention sponge, and as long as he does tour i dont mind, i mean, i'm too young to have seen the real thing in its original heyday. I've missed out on all my fave bands like the Beatles, Doors, Who with Keith Moon etc, so in a way i'm kinda glad they r touring, just to give little uns like me the chance to get a little closer to Monkeemania...even if it is for a brief moment.

luv ya shotguns

WTM

xx


Exactly.  I've heard the guitar kept him out of trouble too, but I still think it has more to do with the millions his mother eventually made with the white-out.  Learning the guitar probably gave him something to do that he enjoyed and inheriting his mothers fortune allowed him to do it.
~Donatella

Smut Alert

A new drawing from Arrowhead is now posted in the Gallery as #7 - must be a special one just for mickchick.

Sunday, March 17, 2002 11:37 AM
I just laughed my ass off at Fuzzy's last comment in the Black Box - the one about Mike being a lonely pile of shit if it wasn't for the Monkees.  I agree 100%!  I hesitate to say this publicly because I don't want to offend the Mike fans in the Box, but there is absolutely nothing about that man that would have made him popular if it wasn't for the Monkees.  While the group may not have helped him to be taken seriously as a musician, it made his name a household word and it's the ONLY reason most people even know who the guy is.  In my opinion, the man was not attractive (well, okay, maybe just his ass was) and most of his music pretty much sucks. And then there's the matter of his videos.  That 30year reunion special he wrote was awful.  I was embarrassed for all of them when I watched it.  Being strange does not make someone a great artist. 

As for Davy, Peter and Micky - well, they definitely don't look like they used to.  But, they're still entertaining - and that's all their audience requires.  If someone's interested in serious art, they wouldn't waste their time at a Monkees concert anyway.

mickchick 


Mickchick!  You're back!  Welcome home - we missed you.  Now as for this Mike controversy, I have to agree here too, except for the part where he isn't attractive.  Like I said, he'd probably be in jail or dead if it hadn't been for the Monkees and/or his inheritance, so the guy really lucked out, big time!  Frankly, I couldn't even remember his name a few years ago.  I kept thinking, the guy with the hat.
~Donatella



Sunday, March 17, 2002 12:26 PM
How true Dona - the guy with the hat. I remember listening to the radio and they were trying to name all the Monkees. Now over here, most people dont even know the Monkees - any of them. They got Peter Tork, Micky Doolenz (thats what they called him), Davy (couldnt remember his surname WTF?) and Mike Nesbit. I thought that was very funny...Nesbit. I mean, so many times i tell someone that i like Mike Nesmith and they always go Nesbit? How can anyone mispronounce his name? It must be the most easy name...a lot easier than dolenz.

grrrrr.

luv ya shotguns

WTM

ps. Arrowhead, love the pic babe


Actually, I couldn't remember Micky or Dolenz.  All I could think was, the drummer with some kind of Italian name.  I did, however, remember Davy Jones - how can you forget a name like that?
~Donatella



Sunday, March 17, 2002 12:35 PM
WELCOME BACK MC and JG! <Hugs> I've missed you both. I hope everything is getting a little better in RL. MC I'm hoping you will be at the chat on Tuesday. I have some stuff I'd like to discuss with you.:)  I really can't tell who's worse though. The more I think about Mike and Davy, there's really not too much difference between them. Except Davy fucking head is too damn BIG to get thru the door! Freak!!!!

AH, what a awesome drawing of Mick. I'd like to jump on top of that! It certainly made me HOT *fanning myself* It's no wonder Mike and Davy couldn't keep their hands off of him...look at him. Drawing or no drawing, that's what I picture him to look like. YUMMY....YUMMY....YUMMY!  Fuzzy

BTW, The movie that Micky directed last year will be airing on the Lifetime channel, tomorrow at 9:00pm. It actually sounds like it might be a good movie. I've got my VCR ready!


I think there's a big difference between Mike and Davy (except for the giant-sized ego's), but I'm too busy to into it right now.  In short, Davy still thinks of himself as a teen idol, while Mike has gone on and gotten over it.  So, what's the name of Mick's movie? 
~Donatella

Smut Alert

Part III of WTM's "The Chameleon" is now posted.